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Oct 4, 2012 1:00pm PDT
people. >> it seems a little bit redundant. i don't get that. >> it to function of state law, this redundancy. >> the reason for this new commission is that state law requires a system where there is a function separate from government. >> for all intents and purposes, it is still government. >> we are faced with this strange, new lab, to have a separate entity, and we have to set up something to oversee that function. >> at the end of the data still the city's agency, and the city making the appointment and i don't get it. i guess it is not for me to get. >> state law. we are trying to live within the four corners here. >> thank you for your report. i have a couple of questions. under redevelopment, 80% of the tax increment was to flow back into the redevelopment area. with the dissolution, we were told that absent any substitute agencies this money would flow into the general fund of the city or county; in our case the city and county of san francisco. under successor agency, with a redevelopment funds or criminal tax funds clawback of the area or to the general fund? >> the answ
SFGTV2
Sep 30, 2012 7:30am PDT
choose it in a way that the law would recognize. so the law all of the time develops concepts that scientists are interested in studying. it might be competency, for example. well, competency is really a multifaceted construct from a legal perspective. it could be competency to be executed, it could be competency to commit a crime. it could be competency to contribute to the decision as to whether voluntarily commit yourself to a mental hospital. it could be competency to participate in an abortion decision. so competency means many different things. the first thing you have to do as a scientist is ask the question, well, what does the law mean by it because if you want me to measure it, i have to somehow apply it. so going back to the question of free will, because a scientist can't operationally define it, they can't measure it, they're not really that much use to legal debates about free will. now, what does it mean on the legal side? i actually think the idea of free will or what is often referred to as volitional control plays a very big part in legal systems, but i think in t
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 7:00am PDT
. we have a quick summary of the laws. the ada, calif. building code, the civil rights, and our experts here will elaborate. we also have a list of certified caps at work in san francisco for you. carla johnson with the mayor's office of disability has created a really good it died of out to interview your experts to make sure you are getting the best quality product for you. been next -- the money you pay for the inspection you can take as a tax deduction. any money that if you have taken can be applied as a tax deduction. this can be done on an annual basis. next, the opportunity, and a fund -- opportunity loan fund, providing for small businesses to pay for the inspection or to make improvements needed. to do it before you receive the lawsuit. and lastly, we of the bar association and their resources. they're providing their legal service for you. this last thing i am going to share with you in terms of what we have seen in our office is that with the individuals, that does not necessarily mean an individual will follow up with a lawsuit. what we've seen in our office is the
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 8:00pm PDT
:]Ñand los angele identifying ways our ethic laws could be strengthened. as supervisors, what if anything would you propose to strength the city's ethics laws. i will start with mr. davis. >> strong ethic laws are essential. what is happening with our sunshine task force and hope davis can speak to this since she recently served on the task force. these need to be strengthened and one problem we have is around enforcement. i would like to see more of the ethical violations of larger committees, some of which are operating, for instance, in some shady areas of law. one was the run he ed run, the committee for mayor ed lee last year and the campaigns that aren't swaying the politics of city, the way the run ed run campaign did. so i think that is one the issues and improving our good government and ethic laws in san francisco. >> miss breed, would you like to address the question? do you want me to repeat it? >> yes. >> sure. a recent chief civil grand jury report, at the request of supervisor campos the city conducted a comparison of laws identifying ways our ethic laws could be s
SFGTV2
Sep 30, 2012 8:00am PDT
most jurisdictions as you know, that's not true. after hanky was acquitted under the american law institute test because he could not control his behavior, congress in most state jurisdictions changed the law, got rid of the lack of emotional test, the a.l.i. test and now in most jurisdictions, the nontest requires that you demonstrate that you can't distinguish right from wrong. so now we have, and again, the law uses science for the law's own purposes, but what is problematic here is the disconnect. from the criminal side, if you lack emotional control, you go to prison because you can't win under the test because the test doesn't apply. when you walk out of prison and you lack emotional control, you get civilly committed. so what we have is a fundamental disconnect between how we view philosophy of free will and human control on the criminal side versus the civil side and not surprisingly on both sides "the state wins" because on the criminal side you go to prison and on the civil side, you get incarcerated civilly. >> i don't think that's much of a disconnect. i think -- so i
SFGTV2
Oct 4, 2012 10:30pm PDT
over a similar law. in alabama, one of the ultrasound bills can be and is president of the company that sells the equipment to do the ultrasound. you have to follow the money. there are connections to the american legislative exchange council, when you fall and connect the dots. she is putting stories together about who is behind all this legislation. it is very similar. we have seven ultrasound laws on the books. so many more are racing to the legislature. yesterday, democratic women senators in georgia staged a walkout to protest to measures that would limit access to services and contraception. i want to read a couple of headlines. ohio remains on the front lines of the abortion debate. michigan legislature passes a partial birth abortion bans. you talk ok's 72 hour waiting period for abortions. -- utah ok's 72-hour waiting period for abortions. i could spend the entire lunch talking about this. the good news is that women are organizing, and rallies are taking place on a regular basis. a lot of young women are getting involved. we had a caller to date asking, how do i talk to m
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 1:00pm PDT
violence. the afternoon's panel will have a debate about a proposed law that would reduce felony drug possession crimes to a misdemeanor. this is what 13 states have done. we not only bring these issues to the forefront, but have the opportunity to participate -- and we have cards that you could fill out and questions. this promises to be a year of reform and change like we have never seen, and we now see prisoner reentry programs being implemented. we're still spending too much money and resources and not enough on rehabilitation and reentry. this november, the voters will decide on limiting the three strikes law. issues and measures long overdue. it is clear there is much more that needs to be done. according to a study that was published this month -- since 1989, 2000 people have been wrongfully incarcerated and they served collectively, 10,000 years. an average of 11 years person. i would like to thank the people who made this summit possible. memoranda -- amy devon -- many volunteers and all of our speakers and panelists. i would like to thank the co- sponsors, and the bar associ
SFGTV2
Oct 3, 2012 5:30pm PDT
of a tobacco product sales permit. reason for suspension: violation of state law and the san francisco health code which p tobacco products. director's case no. smk12-06. we will start with the appellant's agent and you have seven minutes. >> thank you. abraham -- appearing on behalf of mr. ahmed. the reason for the appeal is the decision of the department is that it is overbroad and punitive. in addition we request a -- that the board review de novo the denial of the exemption request that the appellant submitted timely in a timely fashion. the smoking of huka pipes and the enjoyment of the camaraderie that occurs around that have great cultural significance. unfortunately, the smoking ban in san francisco allowed the huka bar to fall through the cracks of that regulation. as i stated in my brief, mr. ah med because he is a muslim is not able to sell alcohol and it does not comply with regulations regarding bars or tafns s -- taverns so he could not fall within the limited exemption to the ban. when he submitted the exemption he put a little box written next to it huka bar i
SFGTV2
Sep 28, 2012 8:30pm PDT
skirt the law and serve something before 6:00 a.m. the bookmobile, where are they? >> i have my cheat sheet here which i cannot find. the library has been here after great disasters. there has -- is a special book that won an award this year. here is the book. i downloaded it on my kindle. it can check out copies of the book mobile. nex>> thanks for being here. start walking slowly. welcome to san francisco, everyone. ♪
SFGTV2
Oct 1, 2012 8:30pm PDT
called "folk law for ordinary folk," it's a very tough one in the sense that workers at some point are essentially giving up higher salary and higher pay in exchange for those pension benefits. so to come back later on and essentially cut that out from under them, the question is one of fairness and of equity. that being said, as far as police and firefighters, obviously those are public safety areas and it's a little bit different in the sense that we definitely need to protect those pensions in a different manner than we do others. as far as other ways to save, i would certainly look at capping pensions moving forward, so that they don't increase incrementally over time. i think we need to put a cap on that now before it starts to burgeon and get out of control. >> thank you. >> miss olague. >> i believe i was one of the individuals who answered no. i don't think we should balance the budget on the back of the workforce, and there was prop c. prop b was the adachi measure and proper c was a lot of pension reform where the unions and the workforce came forward and they made a lot of s
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 9:00pm PDT
to us. they make laws that we have to follow. it gives me great pleasure to introduce the president of the board of supervisors, david chiu. [applause] >> good afternoon. first, if any of you have ever wondered what an ls -- and elected officials sounds like with anesthesia and his mouth, i want to let you know that i got out of a dental chair 20 minutes ago after a few hours of dentists work. but i wanted to give a few remarks of how i think we are doing. i'm very much more are optimistic about how we're doing than four years ago. i read an article from the chronicle and it said that the candidates disagreed on everything, except for the need to crack down on entertainment violence. i did not propose anything for the first six months until there were half a dozen people affected. that was followed by a terrific shooting, which was then followed by an incident in union square. i want to take a moment and thank the san francisco police department for your input. if we pass legislation to require additional security requirements and plans. we pass legislation to give the entertainment
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 6:30pm PDT
of the law and with sunshine i began to research and research and now i have 43 pounds of paper in the research and because my case, sunshine case, that found supervisors wiener, colen, chiu and mar and they broke the state law and that is why this case is in court. they shut down sunshine and the retaliation was so strong i was evicted from my home and because i was raised right i would do it over again, and once i am elected one of the law enforcement officials will swear me in. >> i am mr. garcia and have the diseepest experience of anyone. i have many years and seven years as an educators and taught there and president of board of ethics and board of appeals and 25 years of experience in doing service to the neighborhood. i am supported by the incumbent and scott wiener and others and i want very bad to be your supervisor and i am asking for your support and there's give me your vote on november 6. thank you. >> hi. i am joel io and i am running for supervisor and they have a way of looking at the happy meals but can't fill pot holes. where is the common sense? and many paid tw
SFGTV2
Oct 1, 2012 11:00pm PDT
honestly don't know how you would enforce a law like that. of course everyone should pay their fair share but i don't know how you could enforce that. i believe we should standardize the inlaw units, maybe sure they're up to code and regulate any new units but as far as taxation i cannot see how you could actually enforce that and collect the taxes on it. >> thank you sir. mr. yee. >> cheryl i just want to make sure -- >> i can repeat it. there is internet base market for short base rentals and they sublease units to visitors and tourists and many are illegal and the city's hotel tax is not collected. should the city legalize these arrangements and collect the hotel tax? >> i traveled to different countries and i go to the internet and they have hotels and these rentals advertise and i have used these apartments as rentals for either a few days or one week and it's kind of nice to be there so i would support it and once you have it legalized you have again another base of revenues to tax and if they do advertisement and most will or go through an agency people would know about it, s
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 2:00pm PDT
about by bringing this conversation forum. it is not just law enforcement perspective, it is not just the community-based perspective, it is not just the research perspective, it is a multi- layered approach. first and foremost, we do have to consider meeting youth where they are act. we are talking about perpetrators of violence or what not or system involved or involved in gangs, we have to meet them where they are at. pain and hurt produces more hurt, right? what is fundamental it is addressing back pain -- addressing that pain. not looking at folks in a punitive way and saying, this guy is notorious, we have to lock him up. that person is hurting. he might have been abused, you know. first and foremost, we need to meet that individual's needs. i am pursuing a master's in social work. i have that lens. we need to heal our communities and take those answers upon ourselves. everybody has already -- we sure this in perspective, but definitely, we need to create community anchored solutions. that involves a discourse with policy makers. as people of color, we need to be accountable and
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 4:00pm PDT
and another one where because of law enforcement tactics and focus, you end up caught up in a system where you can never move on. you're permanently trapped and weighed down by having a felony conviction. the reason i call it a war on crumbs is the type of people we see at the hall of justice, i brought with me some props. i brought with me a sweetener packet. this is a gram of sweetener. most of the time this is on the high end of the amount of narcotics we see people in possession of. sometimes people have two or three sweetener packages on them and we call them drug dealers, you know. that's why we call it a war on crumbs because the amounts we are talking about are mine us schedule. -- minnesota us schedule. the fact -- are miniscule. and based on less than a packet of sweetener, to me is outrageous. and to me this is a positive first step, in my opinion, because at least you remove some of the stigma attached to this type of issue which in my opinion should be a public health issue. it's a public health issue for a certain segment of the community and should be a public health c
SFGTV2
Oct 4, 2012 2:30am PDT
looked at this as being part of a gang. the term "gang" is manifested through the media, and law enforcement for numbers. it was more of a community. i did not go to school and meet somebody. i lived on this block and this is where my grandmother's house was, or i was born and raised. what people may see on tv was at my front door. the killing and the dope dealing. it was right there. this was a community list of people, we just grew up together. there were no handouts and no one told us how to conduct ourselves. and tell us what to wear. someone could have a school fight, and we may be at the mall, and see the person we have a fight with. the army and navy have their bar fights. i did not see this as being a game, or a community. supporting each other, this may have been in a negative way. i did not have a stable household. many of them do not of their fathers are, where their father is dead. in their return, the block i gave up -- this is who i looked up to. he had a notorious reputation. there was the violence and in return, we had the pros and cons for that. a lot of people w
SFGTV2
Sep 29, 2012 1:00pm PDT
starting this burning man project. we think there is a law that we can do together. try it sometime. try living for eight days without buying, selling, listening to an ad, and tell yourself, disco to give things to people. see what that is like. it is quite remarkable, the effect it has. i could go on forever about this. it is quite a novelty. we do not say that you can live like that all the time, but going back to my original criticism of society. we are going to moderate the appetite of the consumer, which is going to destroy us. then we are born to have to try to find satisfaction in life that did not involve high levels of consumption. we think that kind of meditation will lead you to those things. of course, there is also what coco chanel said, the best things in life are priceless, but the next best thing is cost lot of money. that is true, too. >> two exceptions to that system, coffee and ice. how did that come to be? >> our history is full of spontaneous actions. we are careful planners today, but none of this was really planned. a lot of it was on the basis of intuition an
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 8:30am PDT
family. mason, kelly, tray, my wife, naomi, my sister joy, and my mother-in-law. they have been supporting me for a long time. behind this individual all board, there's a team of people that are responsible for making things happen. just for a moment, i want the puc to raise their hand and give a shout. we have a lot of folks who really committed in making the systems wwork. again, we have billions of dollars that we are entrusted with delivering in a timely way, which needs to be within budget. systems like this will really elevate and make it really transparent that we are delivering these programs in a very conscious and deliberate way so we can save the ratepayers' money. with that, i just want to thank you guys for this award. thank you. [applause] [applause] >> if you are a consultant or you work for a company that does work for the puc, raise your hand. that's about half the room. thank you, harlan kelly. >> it does not matter just where you're going to go. it matters how you're going to get there. our team came together in 2008 and we started looking at procuring somethi
SFGTV2
Sep 30, 2012 4:00am PDT
. she had had 16 tax cuts signed into law to help small businesses grow and thrive. as we know, during the last 15 years, small businesses account for about 2/3 of the job growth in our country, but when the bush recession hits in 2009, 2010, small businesses were hit particularly hard. small businesses are the center of her agenda. congress under her leadership gave 27 million small businesses tax cuts. two main pieces of legislation -- the small businesses jobs act in the information you have, will create a total of 500,000 jobs and create eight tax cuts. they are all described in the packet you have. also, unleashing up to $300 billion in credit for small businesses to access. there are another eight tax cuts that were passed through a number of different laws. some of our panelists will address those. even though now we are in an environment where there is a republican majority in the house and a slimmer majority in the senate, please note that the leader and democrats are going fight hard to keep their agenda and restart our economy, and there will be more work to be done. i would
SFGTV2
Oct 5, 2012 11:30am PDT
harvard university. that is where i went to school. it was intense. i stayed there for law school and have a master's in public policy from there. those are subjects i decided to study because i was interested in public service and public policy issues and government. >> you grew up in the boston area. what made you want to make the transition and moved to san francisco? what motivated you to get involved in politics question marks before i ran for office, and worked in san francisco as a criminal prosecutor and civil rights attorney. i got to understand how much of a be in san francisco is to the rest of the world for social justice. i spent a number of years helping to grow a small business. i got to understand the innovative spirit in san francisco. at night, i volunteered as a neighborhood leader and as feature of an affordable housing organization. i learned so much about the challenges facing our neighborhoods and the special jewels that are the urban villages we live in. i ran for office because i wanted to serve the city and protect all that is so special about san francis
SFGTV2
Oct 4, 2012 4:30pm PDT
allowances from the city to qualify where rental rates are restricted, that is my understanding of the law; and not sure what this project is getting that allows it to have rental housing units on-site. >> planning staff, there is a cost agreement with this project, included with the original condition material that went out for the september 6th hearing. >> i read that before, but i'm still not clear. there was a variance. it's still present? that may be viewed as the element as a part that allows this to be compliant. >> a variance both for the -- and dwelling unit exposure. >> i heard heard testimony about a variance not being necessary anymore. >> it is not anymore. >> you have a backup revision if this were found to be noncompliant? i'm not saying they would be. if there were a challenge to cost of hawkins, you could have a position that you can do an inlieu fee or -- so the project to go forward. we always allow for that contingency if it were to happen. mitty mr. slider can elaborate. >> yes. section 415 of the planning code would apply, 20%, if funding does not materialize. >> i co
SFGTV2
Oct 6, 2012 12:00am PDT
dreams on shatorde hopes and left off on their own spaceships of life. but the average american laws are in a state of corruption. man is allowed to work -- to go to war and kill other. at age 18 but a man can't buy a drink until age 21. i mean the government has money to pay for wars but not to feed the poor. politicians say more taxes will solve everything -- everything the politicians say vote for me and i'll set you free. but then, dear politician, why are innocent men and women being arrested for helping a dying man on the street? men and women create but we got our name from our women and then we take from our women. when did we get to the point where we're buying everything but can't pay for anything? we have credit cards or checks and check books but not a dime in our pocket? we had dreams in the beginning but let them fizzle in the end so when the ship goes down we better get ready. thank you. [applause] >> ok the so it's called this guy. so there's this guy, right, and he has a smile that can turn my day brighter than bright and the scent he wears i can no longer bear because i
SFGTV2
Oct 2, 2012 11:30am PDT
death or serious bodily injury that the escapee posed not only to them, but all other law enforcement officers he might later encounter, let alone the public at large should discontinue. in a split second of the bmw approach, they moved tactically to create safe angles of fire. having exhausted all of a reasonable means of apprehension, they fired several rounds of the driver, and as a result, the suspect was struck, in capacitive -- incapacitated and taken into custody. at the conclusion of the encounter, sir john ryan and officer lieu maintain security on the screen -- on the scene until additional officers arrived to assist. an ambulance was immediately summoned. the suspect was transported to san francisco general hospital and later succumbed to his gunshot wounds. in the bank robbery suspect in this incident displayed an outrageous lack of concern for life, public safety, and property for what the course of the criminal rampage that began in irvine, california. he used a firearm to rob to banks in southern california, of threatening to shoot the tellers if they did not comply. ga
SFGTV2
Oct 3, 2012 12:30am PDT
not actually -- it is a hearing request. so it is not a change in city law but request that possibly city agencies and members of the public concerned would come and talk about the issue. >> i have one additional question, thank you for that. regarding the on site inclusionary change from threshold of five to ten, the effective date is set back to january 15th. i think you said to evaluate the effect of the legislation were it to be -- or the ballot measure were it to be passed. but it would seem that i would be thinking the board is already approving this. it would not be subject to change in january. i'm kind of confused about that continuance of the -- >> there is some interaction between the charter amendment and this particular ordinance, where the charter amendment would freeze in place controls at a certain date. inclusionary controls could not be evaluated. this is moving this out. come january 1st our current controls where the threshold is five units would be in place. this would allow if the city reevaluate of getting inclusion near housing funding and units from the five
SFGTV2
Oct 3, 2012 11:30am PDT
required to uphold the laws of the state of california, and the united states as well. i'm required to do so in a completely even-handed manner. i do so with no problem and with all the love in my heart. that being said, it would be ridiculous, disingenuous and completely unhelpful not to realize that certain segments within our population here in san francisco need help more than others. it would be absolutely preposterous for me to sit up here and tell you that we're going to approach polices of economic advantagement in an even-handed manner. that would do a disservice to and again, we are a weaker city if we allow certain segments of you are population to essentially rot. we're a stronger, vibrant and more resilient city if we address the issues of those least among us, tackle them, and face them head-on. >> thank you. >> that is what i'm about. truth and honesty in our policy approached. >> mr. resignato. >> i think one important thing we need to look at is vision. really, you know? a vision for what san francisco is going to be. and i think that involves looking at a lot of diffe
SFGTV2
Oct 3, 2012 8:30pm PDT
end the year in june of 2013 with more than we are required to end the year with by state law. that puts us dangerously close to a negative or qualified financial position. the multi-year projections show the need for additional cuts. >> could you repeat what you just said about the numbers you just gave? >> our revenues that are coming in this year are about $30 million less than what we are projected to spend next year. if you look at what we have coming in, luckily, we have a beginning dallas that will allow us to cover that $30 million. but we end the year with only $230,000 more than the very base necessary we need to meet a positive financial status. that is with the cuts that the board of education adopted on tuesday of this week. it is not level of spending we would want to be, including the furlough days and other parts of the budget. the other revenues, and we mentioned a few of them, are the city's rainy day fund, which we are counting in this budget. we are happy that the sales tax is projected to increase. we do not have the federal jobs fund any more. it is no longer f
SFGTV2
Oct 4, 2012 12:00pm PDT
to announce that my son and daughter-in-law are expecting a boy in march; my granddaughter will have a little brother. finally more importantly, i did meet with project sponsor a couple of weeks ago in regards to 2830 toledo, i did have a chance to look at the plans and i'm happy to work with the dr requester and project sponsor to forge a compromise that will make it something that the commission can evaluate and find compromise. this will come back in november. i think there's a lot of potential there. >> congratulations. another line of antoninis in san francisco. commissioner woo. >> i want to announce that this saturday is affordable housing day in san francisco. there will be a number of tours. affordable, seniors, partnership between aia and the number of affordable housing developers.anyone that wants to stop by feel free. >> we can move onto directors reports. directors announcements and review of the board of supervisors, board of appeals in historic preservation commission. >> good afternoon. a couple of quick announcements. it was sent electronically, mm on the curre
SFGTV2
Oct 4, 2012 4:00am PDT
we may not know in any particular case whether a person is an automoton, usually you can. the law has a bright line. it says if you engage in a wongful action, there is a defense called the insanity defense which never works as most of us know because we don't recognize it. should we recognize it, that's an interesting question. should we have a more robust concept of diminished responsibility in light of the understanding that some people have less control over their preferences and desires or should we have better sentencing schemes or get rid of incarceration and come up with different models of trying to deal with punishment once we understand people have wrong selections. i think those are all interesting questions, but is there free will? well, the fact that almost everybody in the audience raised either their right or left hand contemplated it and were quickly able to act and respond. that to me says, yes, there is. now what do we want to do about it? now that we understand that those of us in the audience or up here that like chocolate cake may not have control over it, ho
SFGTV2
Oct 4, 2012 12:30pm PDT
ballot in november, measure c, from what i'm hearing, they reserve the right to change the law back again in the future. t it would seem to me that i don't understand how voters could vote with the understanding that this is been passed. the reserve the right to change it back. people need to know that this provision exists. one the be inclined to take a position based on what has been passed. >> there are interaction between the ordinance in the charter amendment. the charter amendment itself does not affect the 5-9 unit specifically. but the charter amendment would do, it would say the come january 1 of the new year, controls in place at the time are in some respects frozen, and cannot be made more cumbersome for developers. in this case, on the first of the year, the inclusionary requirement for 5-9 buildings will still be intact; the ordinance that the board voted on this week would remove the inclusionary requirements of those 5-9 buildings after the first, 2013. and so because that date has been moved out, they would have the ability to make just that section for the 5-9 build
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Oct 1, 2012 8:00pm PDT
uc davis school of law in 2004, following a clerkship with judge cal braise of the united states court of appeals for the second circuit. interest include election law, administrative law, statutory interpretation, constitutional law and property and natural resources law. he is a resident of san francisco's mission district. we are honored to work chris almendorf. [ applause ] >> thank you very much and thank you to all of the candidates who are here today. we're very fortunate to be joined by six candidates and what i hope will soon be seven. all of the candidates have agreed to ask their supporters to be respectful of other candidates and the audience and to maintain quiet during the forum. i ask you to respect that commitment. every aspect of this forum will be equally fair to all participating candidates. as everyone here knows candidate debates are often limited to latitudinal appears and personal attack. our debate focuses on critical areas of policy disagreement among the leading candidates. so this end the league of women voters of san francisco and the san francisco pub
SFGTV2
Oct 3, 2012 6:00pm PDT
1995. in 2010, we strengthened the law, through a local ordinance. so this is not really anything new. this has been on the books for quite some time. the other thing i wanted to add is that even if there were no tobacco product being used in the hukas -- and i do believe that having the tobacco products there, open in a container, it would seem that it would be very likely that the customers would put the huka tobacco product on the hot stones if there are huka pipes present. that this is sort of similar to the phenomenon of electronic cigarettes, which now were recently banned by the airport commission and they're banned on airplanes. and this is even though there's no tobacco that is used in electronic cigarettes, the problem is that it gives the public the impression that smoking is permitted in areas where it's not permitted, and it also gives the impression to the public that there's no consequence to smoking in areas where smoking is not permitted. tobacco is still the number one cause of preventable deaths in the united states, and the two major factors that have reduced smoki
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